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Re: NAD: 1986 JCM800 2204

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:23 pm
by Guitarbilly
Vladimir Putin wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:06 pm
Guitarbilly wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:15 pm
Vladimir Putin wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:09 pm Just set a Carbon Copy up front with the mix way down. I love that aesthetic since I have the matching 86 cab :D
Yeah that definitely works although it's a different sound than post delay.
True, but it's not like the amp will stick around that long anyway and your DSL already has a loop :lol: :o

:lol: joking aside, this is actually a valid point. I already have other amps I can run delays into. Maybe I should just leave this stock. I don't mind playing it dry for the most part. Some amps are hard to play dry but plexis and 800s never really feel too dry for me.

If that was my only amp it would be a different story, but I have options here. Food for thought. :hmm:

Re: NAD: 1986 JCM800 2204

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:42 pm
by Guitarbilly
Lukeburke1 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:05 pm
Guitarbilly wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:00 pm Looking at the back of the amp now, there are 3 jacks, 2 for speakers and one for DI. I so I could install the Metro effects loop in the DI jack and one of the speaker jacks and leave only one jack for speaker out. That would allow me to install the loop without drilling the amp. I think that is what I am going to do since the loop is 85 bucks and I won't have to carry anything extra.

If you go the Metro Loop option without drilling, amp their option is to use a TRS jack in the DI spot for the loop and splitting it out with one of these:

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail ... tsf-6-inch

My first “big” amp was a Crate GT212 that had a loop like this. I asked a while back in the Metro Loop group on Facebook if it would work, and they said it should.

I’ve thought about doing this myself if I grab an 800. That way, I can use the second speaker output hole for a PPIMV
The TRS thing is a good idea. :idea:

But the PPIMV and the loop don't work well together. The goal if the PPIMV is to get power amp distortion at low volume, but if the power amp is distorting, there will be distortion after the loop.

Re: NAD: 1986 JCM800 2204

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:32 pm
by macgaj3
delay up front is the way. literally only you will be able to tell the difference :cop:

Re: NAD: 1986 JCM800 2204

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:34 pm
by macgaj3
also, when you inevitably flip it, you'll get to say "clean unmodded 800" rather than having to go into the weird details of what you did, why they should trust your handiwork, and how to undo it if they just want a stock amp

Re: NAD: 1986 JCM800 2204

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 1:05 am
by Guitarbilly
macgaj3 wrote: Mon Apr 15, 2024 11:34 pm also, when you inevitably flip it, you'll get to say "clean unmodded 800" rather than having to go into the weird details of what you did, why they should trust your handiwork, and how to undo it if they just want a stock amp
Yeah any mods would be done by Pete Cage and he's really well known by Marshall enthusiasts but I'm pretty much giving up on the idea and keeping it stock.

Re: NAD: 1986 JCM800 2204

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 5:29 pm
by maggotspawn
Nice score. I would just run the delay up front after your OD pedal.

Re: NAD: 1986 JCM800 2204

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2024 5:59 pm
by Guitarbilly
I prefer not to use delay than to use it that way :lol:

Re: NAD: 1986 JCM800 2204

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:00 pm
by spawnofthesith
Billy has so many Marshall NADs I can't keep up :lol:

Nice score!


do you still have it?

Re: NAD: 1986 JCM800 2204

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:24 pm
by Guitarbilly
spawnofthesith wrote: Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:00 pm Billy has so many Marshall NADs I can't keep up :lol:

Nice score!


do you still have it?
I do!!!!! And I figured out the delay thing. I was using my Hot Plate attenuator the other day to keep the volume manageable at home and I realized it has a line out. So i figured I could just set the Hot Plate to load, take the line out into my delay and then go from the delay to the FX return of any of my other amps. It works really well. I'd have to carry 2 heads to the gig but it's good to have a back up anyway.

Re: NAD: 1986 JCM800 2204

Posted: Thu Apr 18, 2024 3:25 pm
by Vladimir Putin
what's the over/under on this still being here by the end of next week? :hmm: