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Re: NAD: 1986 JCM800 2204
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:14 pm
by Guitarbilly
Lukeburke1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:07 pm
Guitarbilly wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:59 pm
Lukeburke1 wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:52 pm
Also, don’t the horizontal-input 800s have the DI out on the back? You could run that directly to a second power amp instead of a load box. Would be one less piece of equipment to carry
True, I can take the signal straight from the DI out. But the amp still needs a load.
Ah, that’s fair. I was under the impression you would do wet/dry with the second power amp
I could, but that would mean 2 cabs. Or maybe I could do it with a stereo cab but I'm not sure how a w/d rig would sound into a single cab.
I have the load part of the equation figured out, I have a Hot Plate attenuator and a Suhr Reactive Load, both will work well.
I think the Bluguitar will work for the reamp part. I just tried it last night with decent results. Need to see how it will work at practice.
Re: NAD: 1986 JCM800 2204
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:15 pm
by Guitarbilly
Vladimir Putin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:09 pm
Just set a Carbon Copy up front with the mix way down. I love that aesthetic since I have the matching 86 cab
Yeah that definitely works although it's a different sound than post delay.
Re: NAD: 1986 JCM800 2204
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:24 pm
by greatmutah
Guitarbilly wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:00 pm
greatmutah wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 1:57 pm
Not to further enable your buying habits (or maybe I am?), but wouldn’t that Palmer Supreme Soaker do the loop thing as well as the Palmer thing and knock out a few pieces of gear at once?
Yes that would work. It's $1100 though
Damn. Yeah not much of a difference between that and a Power Station cost wise.
Re: NAD: 1986 JCM800 2204
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:27 pm
by heath
Guitarbilly wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:14 pm...Or maybe I could do it with a stereo cab but I'm not sure how a w/d rig would sound into a single cab...
I ran wet and dry into a single stereo cab for years. I found that rearranging the wiring so the speakers were not L/R but top left and bottom right, and top right and bottom left sounded more natural and seemed a little wider.
Re: NAD: 1986 JCM800 2204
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:34 pm
by cliffenstein
A+ score ... never played a bad JCM 800 2204 myself!
Re: NAD: 1986 JCM800 2204
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:37 pm
by dstroud
congrats man cant go wrong there!!!
Re: NAD: 1986 JCM800 2204
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:53 pm
by Guitarbilly
heath wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:27 pm
Guitarbilly wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:14 pm...Or maybe I could do it with a stereo cab but I'm not sure how a w/d rig would sound into a single cab...
I ran wet and dry into a single stereo cab for years. I found that rearranging the wiring so the speakers were not L/R but top left and bottom right, and top right and bottom left sounded more natural and seemed a little wider.
That's interesting. I may give that a shot.
Re: NAD: 1986 JCM800 2204
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:00 pm
by Guitarbilly
Looking at the back of the amp now, there are 3 jacks, 2 for speakers and one for DI. I so I could install the Metro effects loop in the DI jack and one of the speaker jacks and leave only one jack for speaker out. That would allow me to install the loop without drilling the amp. I think that is what I am going to do since the loop is 85 bucks and I won't have to carry anything extra.
Re: NAD: 1986 JCM800 2204
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:05 pm
by Lukeburke1
Guitarbilly wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:00 pm
Looking at the back of the amp now, there are 3 jacks, 2 for speakers and one for DI. I so I could install the Metro effects loop in the DI jack and one of the speaker jacks and leave only one jack for speaker out. That would allow me to install the loop without drilling the amp. I think that is what I am going to do since the loop is 85 bucks and I won't have to carry anything extra.
If you go the Metro Loop option without drilling, amp their option is to use a TRS jack in the DI spot for the loop and splitting it out with one of these:
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail ... tsf-6-inch
My first “big” amp was a Crate GT212 that had a loop like this. I asked a while back in the Metro Loop group on Facebook if it would work, and they said it should.
I’ve thought about doing this myself if I grab an 800. That way, I can use the second speaker output hole for a PPIMV
Re: NAD: 1986 JCM800 2204
Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2024 3:06 pm
by Vladimir Putin
Guitarbilly wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:15 pm
Vladimir Putin wrote: ↑Mon Apr 15, 2024 2:09 pm
Just set a Carbon Copy up front with the mix way down. I love that aesthetic since I have the matching 86 cab
Yeah that definitely works although it's a different sound than post delay.
True, but it's not like the amp will stick around that long anyway and your DSL already has a loop