Crab Amp Broke

For all discussions about electric, acoustic and bass guitars, guitar amps, effects, modelers this is the place!!!!!
User avatar
I'MAPUNKROCKERDAMNIT
Posts: 866
Joined: Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:07 am
Location: Same town as Lindsay Lohan

Re: Crab Amp Broke

Post by I'MAPUNKROCKERDAMNIT »

The first thing I'd try is opening the chassis, look at the loop jacks while plugging a jack in and pulling it out.
Switching jacks can sometimes be bent wrong and may just need to be bent into the correct alignment.
Some switching jacks are enclosed in a plastic tube, if so, you won't be able to bend anything back into place.
Replacing the send and return jacks should be easy to do.

As was suggested, please post close up pics of the loop jacks and the footswitch jacks.
Walt said: When the hour is nigh & the lights are low & I got a toothpick of a shwag joint in my teeth & my friends want to hear me play Into the Void or TNT or Cemetery Gates I plug my $600 guitar into my $150 amp and I am a Rawk gawd

User avatar
linthat22
Posts: 230
Joined: Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:48 pm

Re: Crab Amp Broke

Post by linthat22 »

I'll get on the pictures gents, just probably not today. I'm trying to keep our one hound off his feet since he's been gnawing on them due to allergies. Poor fella is limping. I decided to set some time aside tomorrow and I'll get some gut shots. I'm sure I'll find broken glass in there too lol

*Edit - So the pup's paw is still swollen and needs monitoring. I should be able to provide pictures come Tuesday barring any heart disease issues or issues with the hound's paw.

User avatar
linthat22
Posts: 230
Joined: Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:48 pm

Re: Crab Amp Broke

Post by linthat22 »



Alright guys, here she is. I think the fx loop I bought might omit the foot switch lol

User avatar
linthat22
Posts: 230
Joined: Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:48 pm

Re: Crab Amp Broke

Post by linthat22 »

I grabbed my multimeter and tested for continuity on the board that houses the foot switch and FX Loop and I get a beep when I touch the closest pin to the chassis on all three. I then traced the wires and get a beep on those as well.

Also uploaded a clip with my potato.

Last edited by linthat22 on Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:44 pm, edited 1 time in total.

heath
Posts: 78
Joined: Fri Jan 26, 2024 4:01 pm

Re: Crab Amp Broke

Post by heath »

The pin closest to the chassis is going to be the sleeve connection point and it should go to the common ground (which is why you are getting continuity there). The middle one is the ring, and the third closest is the tip. If you plug in a patch cable and check between the third closest to the chassis you should get continuity. Honestly, depending on how closely they cloned the Mark II and Mark III, it should get continuity when nothing is plugged in as well. The effects loop in the original amp was just two switched jacks that when nothing was plugged in bridged the two jack's tip connection.

Image

It's difficult to tell without looking at the solder side of the board, but it could be a cold solder joint on the jacks or a defective jack. If the builder decided to get fancy and add a relay for the FX loop switching or something like that, it could be that as well.

I would also check to see (with nothing in the fx loop) if the third closest terminal has continuity to ground (closest to the chassis) on either the send or return jacks. If they do that would be why the signal is gone when the loop is empty. It would point to maybe a faulty jack or shorted solder joint or something along those lines.

User avatar
I'MAPUNKROCKERDAMNIT
Posts: 866
Joined: Mon Jan 29, 2024 3:07 am
Location: Same town as Lindsay Lohan

Re: Crab Amp Broke

Post by I'MAPUNKROCKERDAMNIT »

I've had two jacks, like those, fail... RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX on brand new pedals... one on a Cry Baby Bass Wah and one on a Behringer Chorus Pedal.
The wah wouldn't let me put the guitar cable in.
The Chorus Pedal wouldn't take any signal but, if I used jumper/test cables to bypass the socket, it worked.
I know they're everywhere but, I'm not too fond of those jacks.

Cool guitar!!! It looks like it was made for sitting down!!! :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk:
Walt said: When the hour is nigh & the lights are low & I got a toothpick of a shwag joint in my teeth & my friends want to hear me play Into the Void or TNT or Cemetery Gates I plug my $600 guitar into my $150 amp and I am a Rawk gawd

User avatar
linthat22
Posts: 230
Joined: Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:48 pm

Re: Crab Amp Broke

Post by linthat22 »

heath wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:13 pm The pin closest to the chassis is going to be the sleeve connection point and it should go to the common ground (which is why you are getting continuity there). The middle one is the ring, and the third closest is the tip. If you plug in a patch cable and check between the third closest to the chassis you should get continuity. Honestly, depending on how closely they cloned the Mark II and Mark III, it should get continuity when nothing is plugged in as well. The effects loop in the original amp was just two switched jacks that when nothing was plugged in bridged the two jack's tip connection.

Image

It's difficult to tell without looking at the solder side of the board, but it could be a cold solder joint on the jacks or a defective jack. If the builder decided to get fancy and add a relay for the FX loop switching or something like that, it could be that as well.

I would also check to see (with nothing in the fx loop) if the third closest terminal has continuity to ground (closest to the chassis) on either the send or return jacks. If they do that would be why the signal is gone when the loop is empty. It would point to maybe a faulty jack or shorted solder joint or something along those lines.
Lots of great info here. I appreciate the areas to look and test. When I remove her from the shell, I'll give it a shot :thu:

User avatar
linthat22
Posts: 230
Joined: Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:48 pm

Re: Crab Amp Broke

Post by linthat22 »

I'MAPUNKROCKERDAMNIT wrote: Mon Jun 16, 2025 8:47 pm I've had two jacks, like those, fail... RIGHT OUT OF THE BOX on brand new pedals... one on a Cry Baby Bass Wah and one on a Behringer Chorus Pedal.
The wah wouldn't let me put the guitar cable in.
The Chorus Pedal wouldn't take any signal but, if I used jumper/test cables to bypass the socket, it worked.
I know they're everywhere but, I'm not too fond of those jacks.

Cool guitar!!! It looks like it was made for sitting down!!! :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk: :rawk:
Thank you dude, I guess those jacks are quite temperamental. I'll keep an eye on those along with the previous gent giving test points.

And yeah, I didn't feel like throwing on a strap, so I just sat her down. It sits great though whether sitting or standing.

User avatar
fastredponycar
Posts: 103
Joined: Mon Apr 29, 2024 3:33 pm
Location: Alabama
Contact:

Re: Crab Amp Broke

Post by fastredponycar »

My jubilee has the EXACT same problem. I have to keep a little patch cable connecting the send/return jacks if I'm not using anything in the loop.

No idea what caused it and too lazy to take it to a tech. The amp still makes sound when the patch cable is removed but it's much quieter and sort of cuts in and out randomly. Attach the patch cable and it's 100% perfect 🤷‍♂️
Too much junk to list with 255 characters. :facepalm:

Check my gear reviews
https://www.youtube.com/@FastRedPonyCar

User avatar
linthat22
Posts: 230
Joined: Mon Jan 29, 2024 5:48 pm

Re: Crab Amp Broke

Post by linthat22 »

fastredponycar wrote: Tue Jun 17, 2025 2:55 pm My jubilee has the EXACT same problem. I have to keep a little patch cable connecting the send/return jacks if I'm not using anything in the loop.

No idea what caused it and too lazy to take it to a tech. The amp still makes sound when the patch cable is removed but it's much quieter and sort of cuts in and out randomly. Attach the patch cable and it's 100% perfect 🤷‍♂️
I guess it's a good thing that amp makers/designers use the loop as a quick troubleshooting test to narrow down the problem. Doesn't make it any less frustrating, but it is something learned :thu:

Post Reply