Gibson Frets in the wrong place? Wat!?

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Gibson Frets in the wrong place? Wat!?

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Watching this video about experts comparing a Chibson to a Gibson and out of left field: Well, a REAL GIBSON has the frets in the wrong place, so this is a the real tell if you can't intonate it.
included timestamp in the link. Are you f'ing kidding me?! Why am I just learning this now? Only a Gibson is good enough. :rofl:

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Re: Gibson Frets in the wrong place? Wat!?

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yeah I always knew Gibson used the rule of 18. It's a minimal difference and really not audible in most musical situations, given that guitars are not equal tempered instruments anyway .

There's a good article about this from GAL:

https://luth.org/2021_0351300-buckland-ro18-direct/

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At 5am before coffee this sounded like a big whoops, that article points out that there's barely any difference anyways. If we add in my poor technique there's bigger issues for why I'm out of tune haha

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banana hammock wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 11:58 pm At 5am before coffee this sounded like a big whoops, that article points out that there's barely any difference anyways. If we add in my poor technique there's bigger issues for why I'm out of tune haha
:lol: same

With guitars the intonation is always a bit of a compromise anyway. A lot of the things we hear as being "in tune" wouldn't pass a strobe tuner test. Add distortion to it and it's even less noticeable.

EVH used to tune his strings slightly off in the studio depending on what part of the neck he was playing. I think he had something like 16 different tunings that were just a few cents off on some strings. He eventually stopped doing that.

Vai has a guitar with equal temperament frets

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But he said that he can't use it for all of his old material because some of the stuff he recorded with a regular guitar doesn't sound right with the "corrected" fretboard.

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Guitarbilly wrote: Wed Feb 26, 2025 2:32 am
banana hammock wrote: Tue Feb 25, 2025 11:58 pm At 5am before coffee this sounded like a big whoops, that article points out that there's barely any difference anyways. If we add in my poor technique there's bigger issues for why I'm out of tune haha
:lol: same

With guitars the intonation is always a bit of a compromise anyway. A lot of the things we hear as being "in tune" wouldn't pass a strobe tuner test. Add distortion to it and it's even less noticeable.

EVH used to tune his strings slightly off in the studio depending on what part of the neck he was playing. I think he had something like 16 different tunings that were just a few cents off on some strings. He eventually stopped doing that.

Vai has a guitar with equal temperament frets

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But he said that he can't use it for all of his old material because some of the stuff he recorded with a regular guitar doesn't sound right with the "corrected" fretboard.
He still used "sweetened" tunings up to the last tour.

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