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Re: Boss SDE-3000D for $250 at Sweetwater
Posted: Wed Nov 06, 2024 6:49 pm
by Guitarbilly
eyeball987 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:25 pm
Just thought of a quick question. I use the DD-500 to boost the level up a touch when turned on for a lead volume bump. Does the SDE-3000D have the ability to do that as well? I would think that it would, but I don't have time to read through the manual today. Figured Billy would already know!
Yep. You can change the output +/- 12dB.
Re: Boss SDE-3000D for $250 at Sweetwater
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:02 am
by Spaced Out Ace
Guitarbilly wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 6:49 pm
eyeball987 wrote: ↑Wed Nov 06, 2024 5:25 pm
Just thought of a quick question. I use the DD-500 to boost the level up a touch when turned on for a lead volume bump. Does the SDE-3000D have the ability to do that as well? I would think that it would, but I don't have time to read through the manual today. Figured Billy would already know!
Yep. You can change the output +/- 12dB.
What do you have your direct level and unigain set to? I have the direct level set to 65 and the unigain set to -10 or -20. However, I find the delays too loud, even setting the out (with the out up/down buttons) to 20.
Re: Boss SDE-3000D for $250 at Sweetwater
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:43 am
by Guitarbilly
The direct level is set at 60 and the UniGain is at -10. My outs are set around 10-12 depending on the preset. I agree 20 would be too loud.
Re: Boss SDE-3000D for $250 at Sweetwater
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 1:13 am
by Spaced Out Ace
Guitarbilly wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2024 12:43 am
The direct level is set at 60 and the UniGain is at -10. My outs are set around 10-12 depending on the preset. I agree 20 would be too loud.
Weird. Okay, then. I'm curious why the delays are so loud at 20. I'm a little perplexed why they would be so loud when the direct is only at 60. I'm used to delays where there is either a mix setting, or the direct level is at 100, then you turn up the delay in relation to that.
Anyways, a lot of the delay patches I've checked out were like 20-25.
Thanks, Billy!
Re: Boss SDE-3000D for $250 at Sweetwater
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 1:50 am
by Guitarbilly
Yeah that's an old Boss/Roland convention, 60 is full signal (1:1 unity gain), if you go higher you're actually boosting the dry signal.
I *think* the 20-25 is supposed to be for stereo operation since it splits the signal. I haven't tried it with this pedal but that's how it was on the OG Roland racks. If you're summing to mono, then it needs to go down to 10-12.
Re: Boss SDE-3000D for $250 at Sweetwater
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 2:06 am
by Spaced Out Ace
So, I set it to 10-12 as suggested, and it works much better this way. Much less "in the way" as it was at 20-25, so thanks for the suggestion. 5-8 works as well if you need it more in the background.
I tried one delay line from the SDE-3000 (450 with ~2 repeats) into the DD-500 (analog at 300 with one or one and a half repeats) and it sounded glorious. I can also set them in parallel in my ES-8.
Re: Boss SDE-3000D for $250 at Sweetwater
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 3:29 pm
by eyeball987
Spaced Out Ace wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2024 2:06 am
I tried one delay line from the SDE-3000 (450 with ~2 repeats) into the DD-500 (analog at 300 with one or one and a half repeats) and it sounded glorious. I can also set them in parallel in my ES-8.
For F's sake. I didn't even think about running the SDE and DD into each other! Just went to pull the trigger and Sweetwater is out of stock now.
Ordered anyway.
Re: Boss SDE-3000D for $250 at Sweetwater
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 3:40 pm
by Spaced Out Ace
eyeball987 wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2024 3:29 pm
Spaced Out Ace wrote: ↑Thu Nov 07, 2024 2:06 am
I tried one delay line from the SDE-3000 (450 with ~2 repeats) into the DD-500 (analog at 300 with one or one and a half repeats) and it sounded glorious. I can also set them in parallel in my ES-8.
For F's sake. I didn't even think about running the SDE and DD into each other! Just went to pull the trigger and Sweetwater is out of stock now.
Ordered anyway.
It sounds awesome. You can run two SDE-3000 delays in parallel into a delay from the DD-500 (such as an analog delay or tape echo algorithm).
Re: Boss SDE-3000D for $250 at Sweetwater
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 3:58 pm
by Guitarbilly
Yeah I've tried running the SDE into my Flight Time delay and it's great. Definitely a great way to do it.
Re: Boss SDE-3000D for $250 at Sweetwater
Posted: Thu Nov 07, 2024 11:04 pm
by Spaced Out Ace
Awesome. The Flight Time seems like another interesting, possibly rack based digital delay pedal. I need to change the loop order on my ES-8 patches so that the 4 and 7 loops occur after the V loop, which is where I put my GT-1000 Core/Synergy Syn-2 as the V loop is always on.