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Re: Buying a Captor X soon. What ohm rating? Does it matter?

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:20 pm
by bleedingwhiskey
Now I'm thinking I might just get the regular Captor. I won't be using this live. Mainly for just home recording and amp attenuation for home practice, so I can work with having to go through my DAW/PC for IR sims. If I did want to have IR sims more on the fly down the road, I can just pickup a TC Electronic IR Loader pedal. How does that sound?

Re: Buying a Captor X soon. What ohm rating? Does it matter?

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:25 pm
by spawnofthesith
bleedingwhiskey wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:20 pm No I'm thinking I might just get the regular Captor. I won't be using this live. Mainly for just home recording and amp attenuation for home practice, so I can work with having to go through my DAW/PC for IR sims. If I did want to have IR sims more on the fly down the road, I can just pickup a TC Electronic IR Loader pedal. How does that sound?
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Re: Buying a Captor X soon. What ohm rating? Does it matter?

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 5:54 pm
by Vladimir Putin
bleedingwhiskey wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 4:20 pm Now I'm thinking I might just get the regular Captor. I won't be using this live. Mainly for just home recording and amp attenuation for home practice, so I can work with having to go through my DAW/PC for IR sims. If I did want to have IR sims more on the fly down the road, I can just pickup a TC Electronic IR Loader pedal. How does that sound?
I don't even mind the process of going through the DAW at home for low volume practice. The tone coming from my studio monitors/headphones is amazing full tilt amp tone vs the attenuated tone through my cabs. Computer takes 10 seconds to turn on and be ready to go since I have the Captor setup all the time in to my interface .

Re: Buying a Captor X soon. What ohm rating? Does it matter?

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:01 pm
by ElDirtySanchez
So I looked more in the TC pedal, seems to have some latency from what people have said - so I started looking into Two Notes Turpedo CAB, the older rectangular shaped one. For headphone use without opening DAW, I'm thinking that might be a good option. They're older units, so I was seeing used prices as low as $130 and it seems to work just like the Wall of Sound software, with the options for power amp sim, eq, compression, 2 cabs.

Re: Buying a Captor X soon. What ohm rating? Does it matter?

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:03 pm
by Vladimir Putin
I'd skip all of the power amp/eq/compression nonsense of the Wall of Sound and just run the Ownhammer IRs. Each speaker/mic combination has been profiled using a solid state amp, a 6L6 amp and a 6v6 amp so you can figure out which style you want. I only run Wall of Sound as an IR loader and with the Ownhammer IRs I am getting amazing results. Much better than *I* personally ever got with real mics and such.

Re: Buying a Captor X soon. What ohm rating? Does it matter?

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:06 pm
by spawnofthesith
Vladimir Putin wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:03 pm I'd skip all of the power amp/eq/compression nonsense of the Wall of Sound and just run the Ownhammer IRs. Each speaker/mic combination has been profiled using a solid state amp, a 6L6 amp and a 6v6 amp so you can figure out which style you want. I only run Wall of Sound as an IR loader and with the Ownhammer IRs I am getting amazing results. Much better than *I* personally ever got with real mics and such.
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Re: Buying a Captor X soon. What ohm rating? Does it matter?

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 7:41 pm
by bleedingwhiskey
How good is the attenuation on the Captor? I'm still leaning towards the 16 Ohm, but if the attenuation isn't really that great, I'll grab the 8 Ohm. Probably should've asked this first :lol: All my current amps are the Soldano designed Jet City amps so they have a decent master volume.

Re: Buying a Captor X soon. What ohm rating? Does it matter?

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 8:37 pm
by Vladimir Putin
It does a solid job of knocking it down -20dB

Per Two Notes, if you run the speaker output then you just need to match the amp output to the cabinet.

So you can run a 16ohm tap through an 8ohm Captor in to a 16ohm cabinet.

When using the attenuated output per Two Notes user manual:

"The ATT output provides a -20dB attenuation. Just plug a speaker cabinet in the ATT output (use a standard speaker cable for this connection), and crank up your amp while keeping a manageable volume.

The speaker cabinet plugged in the ATT output can have a different impedance than the amp. However, this will lead to changing the attenuation ratio, which may vary from the designed -20dB. Using a speaker cabinet with a higher impedance (for example a 16 ohms cabinet on a 8 ohms Captor) will lead to less attenuation (approximately -15dB). Using a speaker cabinet with a lower impedance (for example a 4 ohms cabinet on a 8 ohms Captor) will lead to more attenuation (approximately -25dB)."

fwiw I only use the attenuator for my NMV amps. My Soldano sounds better if I just use the master volume because like you've noticed it's pretty solid.

Re: Buying a Captor X soon. What ohm rating? Does it matter?

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:07 pm
by Guitarbilly
Vladimir Putin wrote: Mon Jun 03, 2024 6:03 pm I'd skip all of the power amp/eq/compression nonsense of the Wall of Sound and just run the Ownhammer IRs. Each speaker/mic combination has been profiled using a solid state amp, a 6L6 amp and a 6v6 amp so you can figure out which style you want. I only run Wall of Sound as an IR loader and with the Ownhammer IRs I am getting amazing results. Much better than *I* personally ever got with real mics and such.
This is the way to go. That WoS stuff is a bit of a waste of time. I guess you can get good results with it but meh... find an IR you like it and go with it. Much easier and it sounds better.

Re: Buying a Captor X soon. What ohm rating? Does it matter?

Posted: Mon Jun 03, 2024 10:17 pm
by greatmutah
I do the same. I use WoS for the IRs and sometimes even their own cabs. I’ve bought a few, mainly from Fortin. And I’ll tweak the mics and speakers in there. But power amp nonsense, EQ, compression… I already know how to do that in the DAW and way more effectively. So I just turn that stuff off.