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Re: For Floyd guys, finally! A proper option…

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:25 pm
by Spaced Out Ace
Interesting. I did not know that. So who is going to buy some $500 USA Floyd Rose and compare it to the German and Japanese variants?

Re: For Floyd guys, finally! A proper option…

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 8:01 pm
by Endtime
Spaced Out Ace wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:25 pm Interesting. I did not know that. So who is going to buy some $500 USA Floyd Rose and compare it to the German and Japanese variants?
Lol. Well I haven’t heard of cost yet but I think this was an effort to make sure it’s all in house. Which besides the investment into the machines , should keep costs down. But I’d guess they should be in the same ballpark as current. That’s the hope anyway.

Re: For Floyd guys, finally! A proper option…

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:29 pm
by Spaced Out Ace
Endtime wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 8:01 pm
Spaced Out Ace wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:25 pm Interesting. I did not know that. So who is going to buy some $500 USA Floyd Rose and compare it to the German and Japanese variants?
Lol. Well I haven’t heard of cost yet but I think this was an effort to make sure it’s all in house. Which besides the investment into the machines , should keep costs down. But I’d guess they should be in the same ballpark as current. That’s the hope anyway.
I don't know. I see it requiring a higher price than the German made OFR.

Re: For Floyd guys, finally! A proper option…

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:37 pm
by Endtime
Spaced Out Ace wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:29 pm
Endtime wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 8:01 pm
Spaced Out Ace wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 7:25 pm Interesting. I did not know that. So who is going to buy some $500 USA Floyd Rose and compare it to the German and Japanese variants?
Lol. Well I haven’t heard of cost yet but I think this was an effort to make sure it’s all in house. Which besides the investment into the machines , should keep costs down. But I’d guess they should be in the same ballpark as current. That’s the hope anyway.
I don't know. I see it requiring a higher price than the German made OFR.
I guess we’ll see but it’s not like made in Germany isn’t virtually the equivalent to made in US. I’m fact most would prolly consider made in Germany as a higher premium. When the brought ou the 1000 series which is all German spec but made in Korea, while you can’t buy a full trem, even when parted out a new Korean made trem is around $160-180. Importing ANYTHING is kinda not cost effective. Made in house should actually save them money on manufacturing/importing etc. I’d guess this is their way of maintaining the price point

Re: For Floyd guys, finally! A proper option…

Posted: Tue Dec 03, 2024 11:28 pm
by Spaced Out Ace
Endtime wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:37 pm
Spaced Out Ace wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:29 pm
Endtime wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 8:01 pm

Lol. Well I haven’t heard of cost yet but I think this was an effort to make sure it’s all in house. Which besides the investment into the machines , should keep costs down. But I’d guess they should be in the same ballpark as current. That’s the hope anyway.
I don't know. I see it requiring a higher price than the German made OFR.
I guess we’ll see but it’s not like made in Germany isn’t virtually the equivalent to made in US. I’m fact most would prolly consider made in Germany as a higher premium. When the brought ou the 1000 series which is all German spec but made in Korea, while you can’t buy a full trem, even when parted out a new Korean made trem is around $160-180. Importing ANYTHING is kinda not cost effective. Made in house should actually save them money on manufacturing/importing etc. I’d guess this is their way of maintaining the price point
Exactly. Save them money, not us.

Re: For Floyd guys, finally! A proper option…

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:42 am
by Guitarbilly
It's about time someone offers different radius for the locking nuts, I never understood why they didn't do that from day one.

Re: For Floyd guys, finally! A proper option…

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 4:18 pm
by Endtime
Spaced Out Ace wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 11:28 pm
Endtime wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 10:37 pm
Spaced Out Ace wrote: Tue Dec 03, 2024 9:29 pm

I don't know. I see it requiring a higher price than the German made OFR.
I guess we’ll see but it’s not like made in Germany isn’t virtually the equivalent to made in US. I’m fact most would prolly consider made in Germany as a higher premium. When the brought ou the 1000 series which is all German spec but made in Korea, while you can’t buy a full trem, even when parted out a new Korean made trem is around $160-180. Importing ANYTHING is kinda not cost effective. Made in house should actually save them money on manufacturing/importing etc. I’d guess this is their way of maintaining the price point
Exactly. Save them money, not us.
Maybe . That’s why I brought up the Korean stuff. They “sold” it as German Spec, just made in Korea. But charged less for it. They have US saddles listed at $125 so a bit of increase over the Original German replacement saddles which I want to say were like $85-100. The US trems will prolly be the highest but no way will it be $500. $275-300 depending on color would be my guess. And I’m assuming they brought manufacturing to the US cause made in Germany Schaller stuff likely increased their manufacturing. I mean, that’s pretty much the world we live in now. But Floyd has always seemed rather fair with their price points. I think having the Gotoh being it’s price point and made in Japan and the Schaller trems being a bit more affordable will have to keep them within that ballpark otherwise most Floyd users will go with the Gotoh or Schaller.
Guitarbilly wrote: Wed Dec 04, 2024 12:42 am It's about time someone offers different radius for the locking nuts, I never understood why they didn't do that from day one.
Tooling I’m sure but yeah it took a rather long time to finally upgrade . Cause it now appears the US made Floyd stuff offers different radii too

Re: For Floyd guys, finally! A proper option…

Posted: Wed Dec 04, 2024 7:15 pm
by macaronisalad
One thing that Gotoh has an advantage on price wise is that those trems are a small piece of their pie, vs kind of Floyds whole business. So they can afford to have minimal margin, or maybe even lose money on them.

On the note of Floyd type tremolos, Kahler has rereleased the Spyder and Steeler, but I haven't heard or seen anything other than press info.