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Re: Mesa Mark IV Combo or Orange AD30 Head
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:50 pm
by spawnofthesith
greatmutah wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:38 pm
Also depending on the age of the combo it may have an EVM.
Oh good call there, can’t tell from the photos but I just asked the seller
Very clean looking amp
Re: Mesa Mark IV Combo or Orange AD30 Head
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:56 pm
by greatmutah
It is. IVB too. I can tell by the loop and tolex. Shouldn’t have too much of a difference in tone. It may have the MC90 which is still a great speaker. STR430s are 6L6s across the board. That lead voicing switch of midgain vs harmonics has a subtle effect on the lead tone but it’s sweet all the same. Mdigain has more mid push, harmonics lets out more sizzle and rawness.
Re: Mesa Mark IV Combo or Orange AD30 Head
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:06 pm
by spawnofthesith
greatmutah wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 8:56 pm
It is. IVB too. I can tell by the loop and tolex. Shouldn’t have too much of a difference in tone. It may have the MC90 which is still a great speaker. STR430s are 6L6s across the board. That lead voicing switch of midgain vs harmonics has a subtle effect on the lead tone but it’s sweet all the same. Mdigain has more mid push, harmonics lets out more sizzle and rawness.
Likes like its an MC90, which is a speaker I've enjoyed in the past
GAS is definitely high.
Did you have the combo version? EDIT: nvm I already asked you that somewhere else this morning
The only thing I'm a little apprehensive about is that I've not really ever been able to get on with high gain tones once at band volume from an open back combo (rectoverb 50, express 5:50, peavey, various fender combos with high gain pedals up front, etc.)
Obviously I could always stick the chassis in a headshell if I felt it was a problem
Re: Mesa Mark IV Combo or Orange AD30 Head
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:14 pm
by greatmutah
Headshell is the way to go. Or you could try adding a thiele cab. I think Dave has a 50 Cal+ combo with a thiele that he loves. Haven’t seen him or his Vlady profile around in a bit (despite all the other Russian bots I’ve bant) but I remember him digging that setup.
Re: Mesa Mark IV Combo or Orange AD30 Head
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:22 pm
by ninjaraf
The loop on the IV worked better than the loop on the VII, IME.
Re: Mesa Mark IV Combo or Orange AD30 Head
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:16 pm
by Guitarbilly
ninjaraf wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 9:22 pm
The loop on the IV worked better than the loop on the VII, IME.
This is true. The IV loop was the last "normal" loop Mesa used. After that they went to all kinds of weird designs, all of which suck tbh
The whole DC, F, Rectifier, TC, LS etc series and the Marks V, JP and VII have terrible loops. Some of them can be fixed by rewiring to series but other can't.
But the Marks II, III and IV and the Caliber .22 and .50 have traditional loops. I heard they're back to a normal loop in the Badlanders now but I haven't tried it yet.
Re: Mesa Mark IV Combo or Orange AD30 Head
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:22 pm
by spawnofthesith
FWIW the series loop on the roadster is just fine IMO, the only problem with it for me is because clean Chanel and modern mode listen to the preamp differently and there for if I have a clean loop going on my pedal and change tk high gain the volumes lose balance. If I wasn’t doing live looping with clean and high gain stuff stacked on top it wouldn’t be a problem lol
The express 5:50 + had a good basic loop too
Re: Mesa Mark IV Combo or Orange AD30 Head
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:31 pm
by Guitarbilly
spawnofthesith wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:22 pm
FWIW the series loop on the roadster is just fine IMO, the only problem with it for me is because clean Chanel and modern mode listen to the preamp differently and there for if I have a clean loop going on my pedal and change tk high gain the volumes lose balance. If I wasn’t doing live looping with clean and high gain stuff stacked on top it wouldn’t be a problem lol
The express 5:50 + had a good basic loop too
Well that's because the loop is not fine
They should have padded each channel/mode at unity gain into the loop.
I bet your 5153 doesn't have that problem, because the loop on it its actually properly done.
I never played the Express but the loop looks like a normal design.
Re: Mesa Mark IV Combo or Orange AD30 Head
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:41 pm
by spawnofthesith
Guitarbilly wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:31 pm
spawnofthesith wrote: ↑Fri Mar 01, 2024 10:22 pm
FWIW the series loop on the roadster is just fine IMO, the only problem with it for me is because clean Chanel and modern mode listen to the preamp differently and there for if I have a clean loop going on my pedal and change tk high gain the volumes lose balance. If I wasn’t doing live looping with clean and high gain stuff stacked on top it wouldn’t be a problem lol
The express 5:50 + had a good basic loop too
Well that's because the loop is not fine
They should have padded each channel/mode at unity gain into the loop.
I bet your 5153 doesn't have that problem, because the loop on it its actually properly done.
I never played the Express but the loop looks like a normal design.
Fair
Correct the 5153 does not lol
Re: Mesa Mark IV Combo or Orange AD30 Head
Posted: Fri Mar 01, 2024 11:22 pm
by spawnofthesith
I offered him $1300, read message hasn’t responded hope I didn’t kill the potential deal
he can say no I’ll still pay asking price lol