Apologies for the playing, it's still early for me
Timestamps for the skippers:
00:00 Plexi straight in 00:50 Plexi Boosted leads 01:20 Plugging into the DSL skip it lol 01:55 DSL Straight in 02:28 DSL Boosted Lead
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Yeah! We just talk about, and purchase for the sole purpose of selling later at a loss, guitars and amps.
I feel like the DSL sounds like what most people expect a Marshall to sound like. At least on Green Crunch and Red 1. The other two options don't REALLY need to exist. Hell, even just give me Red 1 and I'm good. I think you are doing what makes sense sound wise, AND enraging the nerds by choosing modern and inexpensive vs vintage and expensive. So its all gravy
Yeah I can hear how close they sound. I think you light run your DSL a hair darker than the Plexi but not much. On a recording or potato, it’s hard to tell a huge difference. So about 90% there. That remaining 10% is a feel thing at least to me.
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Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.
NinjaRaf wrote:
6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world. + is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.
They both sound killer, and work well with your style.
Seeing as you play out in a wide variety of venues, I can see the DSL getting the nod for sure. Ideally I'd say keep both and use the Plexi for recording or the gigs that it'll work, and use the DSL for the rest, but we all know that's not how you roll
YeahI actually think the plexi is a bit bright, although not in a bad way, but I like the fact I can dial the DSL a bit darker. The treble on the DSL was set to 2 so plenty of room to brighter.
But yeah they're very close. I think in the room they're even closer than on Potato cam.
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Tue May 30, 2023 2:29 pm
JiveTurkey
Crystal Lettucer
Joined: Fri Jan 18, 2013 3:49 pm Posts: 20384 Location: Amp on a stick. Duh.
Both sound great. The price difference vs. what has been your tone forever at a much more reasonable rate is enough to make you kind of go ehh?
On a related to this thread note; I have begun to see why people have amp switchers and a bank of cabs at their disposal. All the small bits of time swapping between cabinets and making sure the heads are plugged into the cabs and you are using the right tap and blahblahblah gets to be a drag. Speaking of not even worthy to be called a first world problem
Both sound great. The price difference vs. what has been your tone forever at a much more reasonable rate is enough to make you kind of go ehh?
On a related to this thread note; I have begun to see why people have amp switchers and a bank of cabs at their disposal. All the small bits of time swapping between cabinets and making sure the heads are plugged into the cabs and you are using the right tap and blahblahblah gets to be a drag. Speaking of not even worthy to be called a first world problem
The price difference is definitely a factor. But obviously the DSL has other advantages, like 2 channels, better master volume, clean effects loop etc. The main appeal of the plexi is the "cool" factor of having one. Which is definitely important but in terms of the amps themselves the DSL hold its own quite nicely.
I do want a switcher for my amps. It's on top my list of things to buy.
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Tue May 30, 2023 2:49 pm
JiveTurkey
Crystal Lettucer
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Both sound great. The price difference vs. what has been your tone forever at a much more reasonable rate is enough to make you kind of go ehh?
On a related to this thread note; I have begun to see why people have amp switchers and a bank of cabs at their disposal. All the small bits of time swapping between cabinets and making sure the heads are plugged into the cabs and you are using the right tap and blahblahblah gets to be a drag. Speaking of not even worthy to be called a first world problem
The price difference is definitely a factor. But obviously the DSL has other advantages, like 2 channels, better master volume, clean effects loop etc. The main appeal of the plexi is the "cool" factor of having one. Which is definitely important but in terms of the amps themselves the DSL hold its own quite nicely.
I do want a switcher for my amps. It's on top my list of things to buy.
Nice on the switcher! Plexi looks a hair smaller than the DSL as well. Which I actually like. That's one thing about the Origin heads that I really dig is the smaller size but full (for most gigs) power.
fun stuff!!! I have a DSL and plexi as well. I prefer the rawness and more up front sound of the plexi. DSL is cool but a bit more refined I think. DSL I usually go crunch mode on the clean with a boost. Looked and sounded like you were on the red channel?
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Both sound great. The price difference vs. what has been your tone forever at a much more reasonable rate is enough to make you kind of go ehh?
On a related to this thread note; I have begun to see why people have amp switchers and a bank of cabs at their disposal. All the small bits of time swapping between cabinets and making sure the heads are plugged into the cabs and you are using the right tap and blahblahblah gets to be a drag. Speaking of not even worthy to be called a first world problem
The price difference is definitely a factor. But obviously the DSL has other advantages, like 2 channels, better master volume, clean effects loop etc. The main appeal of the plexi is the "cool" factor of having one. Which is definitely important but in terms of the amps themselves the DSL hold its own quite nicely.
I do want a switcher for my amps. It's on top my list of things to buy.
Nice on the switcher! Plexi looks a hair smaller than the DSL as well. Which I actually like. That's one thing about the Origin heads that I really dig is the smaller size but full (for most gigs) power.
Hey Billy, next time George does a run of Headswitchers, you want me to post it here or DM you? Because that’s next on my list too.
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GuitarBilly wrote:
Anyone who played an 800 "model" in a Kemper/Fractal/Helix and think they know what a raging 2203 sounds like is pretty much the guitar equivalent of a virgin nerd that thinks watching porn counts as sex experience.
NinjaRaf wrote:
6505 is 100% balls to the fucking walls low end and aggression. It is FUCKING PISSED. Like an 18 year old angry at the world. + is a bit less angry, like maybe a 35 year old man angry.
fun stuff!!! I have a DSL and plexi as well. I prefer the rawness and more up front sound of the plexi. DSL is cool but a bit more refined I think. DSL I usually go crunch mode on the clean with a boost. Looked and sounded like you were on the red channel?
yep Red lead 1. As long as the gain is set really low that channel is great. It's set at 2 in this video. The "refined tone of the DSL comes the EQ. I learned that from watching Bonamassa old videos. His PBMT settings for the DSL were 1,2,3,1.
The when I played with Extreme, I looked at Nuno EQ settings and again.. 1,4,1,1. I use 2, 2,4,2. As long as you keep the EQ and gain settings low the Marshall tone is all there.
JiveTurkey wrote:
Nice on the switcher! Plexi looks a hair smaller than the DSL as well. Which I actually like. That's one thing about the Origin heads that I really dig is the smaller size but full (for most gigs) power.
yep, the 50w plexi is the original Marshall "smallbox"
Origin are fine amps btw.
greatmutah wrote:
JiveTurkey wrote:
GuitarBilly wrote:
JiveTurkey wrote:
Both sound great. The price difference vs. what has been your tone forever at a much more reasonable rate is enough to make you kind of go ehh?
On a related to this thread note; I have begun to see why people have amp switchers and a bank of cabs at their disposal. All the small bits of time swapping between cabinets and making sure the heads are plugged into the cabs and you are using the right tap and blahblahblah gets to be a drag. Speaking of not even worthy to be called a first world problem
The price difference is definitely a factor. But obviously the DSL has other advantages, like 2 channels, better master volume, clean effects loop etc. The main appeal of the plexi is the "cool" factor of having one. Which is definitely important but in terms of the amps themselves the DSL hold its own quite nicely.
I do want a switcher for my amps. It's on top my list of things to buy.
Nice on the switcher! Plexi looks a hair smaller than the DSL as well. Which I actually like. That's one thing about the Origin heads that I really dig is the smaller size but full (for most gigs) power.
Hey Billy, next time George does a run of Headswitchers, you want me to post it here or DM you? Because that’s next on my list too.
DM me AND post here. I will jump on it.
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"all knobs at noon" is a bad setting for the DSL. (And for most amps tbh). I am not sure what started this knobs at noon thing. It's a post internet thing for sure.
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Yeah I can hear how close they sound. I think you light run your DSL a hair darker than the Plexi but not much. On a recording or potato, it’s hard to tell a huge difference. So about 90% there. That remaining 10% is a feel thing at least to me.
Yeah, I thought the Plexi had a bit more of that brighter upper mid kerrang thing going on, where the DSL was a bit darker and more saturated. Both sound really good though, and pretty similar.
I keep wondering if would like a DSL for a Fear Factory / Hatebreed type tone, with a boost.
this whole marshall experiment has helped me get over and lingering insecurities ive had of thinking i need more than my DSL100H to represent marshall in my stable, thank you billy
this whole marshall experiment has helped me get over and lingering insecurities ive had of thinking i need more than my DSL100H to represent marshall in my stable, thank you billy
Yes!!!!! That's my mission
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Yeah I can hear how close they sound. I think you light run your DSL a hair darker than the Plexi but not much. On a recording or potato, it’s hard to tell a huge difference. So about 90% there. That remaining 10% is a feel thing at least to me.
Yeah, I thought the Plexi had a bit more of that brighter upper mid kerrang thing going on, where the DSL was a bit darker and more saturated. Both sound really good though, and pretty similar.
I keep wondering if would like a DSL for a Fear Factory / Hatebreed type tone, with a boost.
Absolutely!!!!
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Tue May 30, 2023 8:22 pm
spawnofthesith
Crystal Lettucer
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Both sound fantastic, I dig the plexi a bit more, less compressed and more open sounding than the DSL but it’s pretty close
My JVM sounds even more compressed than your DSL so I can’t say much
Great tones and playing, hope the plexi still sticks around
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Tue May 30, 2023 9:35 pm
eyeball987
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do you like the crunch channel with boost? I bet that would sound even more like the plexi. I had an 800 reissue and the dsl on crunch was 95% the same tone. I actually preferred the DSL to the 800 reissue.
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