That's interesting. My bank quoted some law when responding to a claim of mine.

Anyway shitty deal about the guitar and sorry to hear.

Seems like they just say whatever the fuck they feel like in the moment.

Yeah Citi gives me 180 days. This is not a law, Raf's bank/cc company are being assholes. It's bullshit. I'd end business with them and never look back

I closed my accounts with them early last month.

I do not know a single industry other than guitar were people are so shitty with their business practices they are borderline scammers.

This company is not a "borderline" scammer. They are complete scammers. Raf is still out of his money and no guitar. They're as bad as they come.

Yeah, this one isn't even borderline. They are 100% scammers. They have taken money from TONS of people and only delivered 3-5 guitars from what I can tell. And the guitars all have issues...like tuners being installed so that the nuts hang off the wood, not fully sanded bodies, finish problems, gouges in the wood, etc.

Any updates on this?

Nope. Nothing.

Fucking hell Raf, I'm just seeing this now. Jesus Christ. I'm almost madder at your bank than at this assclown builder, but both can fuck off.

Later, they write several entries (which are visible on their page) in which they discuss receiving death threats, call out clients, and essentially argue that people are wrong to feel taken advantage of by them. Using the epidemic as an excuse once more to not distribute guitars to the public. Although I have no means of knowing whether this is accurate, it seems reasonable to assume that shipping concerns should have been handled after two months at that time.

Yeah, it was excuse after excuse. It's been almost 3 years now, and I am basically out of luck. There are a couple of facebook groups now full of people who've had similar issues with this guy with everything from guitars to computer business setups. Just a total piece of shit con man.

it blows my mind how guys like this keep on finding people to take advantage of....

Mork Verden Guitars is a custom guitar workshop based in Norway that specializes in creating handmade, high-quality guitars with unique designs and exceptional sound. Using a combination of traditional and modern techniques, Mork Verden Guitars offers a range of customizable options to create guitars that are tailored to each customer's preferences and needs.

they're not in Norway first off... second the only thing they are specialized in creating is theft and scams

lolol wtf

Yeah, it's a shame he is able to keep doing this. Someone started a whole second facebook group with some additional aliases he's been using. People have also posted his phone number and address in the group. Still no recourse. Seems he just moves, changes his number, and gets himself a new alias every time the hot water boils over. There are 1 or 2 guys that are so pissed that they seem to be tracking every move he makes. It's complete insanity.

But yeah, I'm sure that's how he finds new people. Changes his name, changes his industry of theft, no one has heard any of the bad things and he always appears to have a product, so people buy and then it's excuse after excuse until you're fucked.

This reads like chat gpt

My thought as well. Once you use it a bit you really start to get a feel for it. I’ve got no evidence aside from my gut from working with GPT a bunch but I had the exact same thought.
I’m like 98% sure this was AI generated.

His first message was just an amalgamation of stuff Raf posted previously in this thread lol

WTF